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    Default SMOKING vs pheromones Reports

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    Hello!

    I have been reading the things concerning smoking and pheromones in this forum.

    my question is: Is

    there any smoking pheromone users that are \"succesful\".

    I smoke cigarettes and I have been testing my NPA/m,

    PPA and SOE gel. I have had not any success. not in the bad and not in the good sense. today I tried the following:

    I went to stores and I was looking for the reactions. I was wearing all I had (4 dabs-drops NPA/m, 4 big dabs PPA

    and 1/2 SOE gel packet. I dabbed these on my jacket and the dabs or maybe even drops were quite big I think). I did

    not get any reactions. Really, no bad, no good ones.

    I am positive that this is NOT caused by my smoking. I just

    think I have to try other products and see if they are working on me. I am 22male non to semi-alpha.

    Any

    suggestions other than \'quit smoking\'? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

    [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

    Phinmone

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    Many

    people are not interested in those that smoke. Especially if the smoke gets in the clothes which happens often.

    Besides that smoking can hinder the detection of pleasant colognes & fragrance. These scents for the most part

    are needed to get the attention to mones. The stench of smoke would seem to hinder mone effectiveness alot IMO.

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    Ok,

    so you are saying that smoking only affects the outer things on me. Like if I smell like the smoke of cigarettes,

    girls / women \"do not like me\" (remember that there are girls that smoke too, and clubs and bars are filled with

    smoke). But the smoking itself does not affect the pheromone production?

    So I just have to try other products

    provided by love-scent? I have been thinking of bying RM, AE and APC.

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    It has

    nothing to do with liking you. It\'s that many women are not looking to get to know guys that smoke. Often it\'s

    one of the initial questions I\'m asked by someone interested in getting to know me. In bars there are alot of

    people that don\'t care about smoking. Many are casual smokers too and claim to only do it when out &

    drinking. Alot are turned off by the smell around them and smoker\'s breath. The stench can be a bug turnoff. I

    would think it would deter the detection of mones too. If two women are similarly attractive, one smokes and the

    other you can sense awesome perfume on, who\'s gonna be more deisrable? That\'s certainly an easy question for

    me to answer!

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    Guys

    that smoke turn me off

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    Default Re: SMOKING vs pheromones Reports

    and

    yes...it can hinder your mone effects

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    GIVE

    UP!

    I dont want to hear it, if my mom can do it after years and years and years of smoking then anyone

    can...

    ARRR she loves her cat you see, poor cat \'FiFi\' has asthma

    god bless

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    </font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
    Is there any smoking pheromone users that are

    \"succesful\".


    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\"> yep

    [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img] smoking makes no difference of the effectiveness of the pheros.

    But certain types of environment like clubs etc will often require a larger dose, but thatīs irrelevant whether

    youīre a smoker or not.

    CJ

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    </font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
    Ok, so you are saying that smoking only affects

    the outer things on me

    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    No.... smoking DOES alter your body

    chemistry, immune system, and dulls your sense of taste and smell. I don\'t know exactly how it would effect your

    natural or synthetic mones, but I do believe that it would effect them in some way.
    And even if you\'re not

    aware of it, you DO have that stank that permeates your clothes, skin and hair which probably effects the mones as

    well.

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    Ya

    know, I\'m not a smoker, but perhaps y\'all are coming down a little hard on our smoky friends. Smokers get laid

    all the time, and often appear sexy to many folks. Smokers in a smoky bar smell about the same as non-smokers.

    Didn\'t hurt Bogart any (\'cept for dying of lung cancer, of course

    [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]).

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    Default Re: SMOKING vs pheromones Reports

    I

    can\'t help it. I have a fetish for big D\'s and pink lungs. I find them sexy.

    [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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    Default Re: SMOKING vs pheromones Reports

    </font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
    I can\'t help it. I have a fetish for big D\'s

    and pink lungs. I find them sexy. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

    <hr /></blockquote><font

    class=\"post\">

    common admit it...you love to kiss them ashtray gobs dont ya

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    Default Re: SMOKING vs pheromones Reports

    the

    big D\'s are propably every woman\'s dream??

    I would agree to DST\'s very good point actually. I read a few

    comments like: Women do not like smokers. I would have to lean on DST\'s opinion. That is a general opinion too.

    Sure, there are dumber of women who do not like the smoke in the clubs and bars, but often they are not there just

    for this reason.

    @Elana: You propably go to the bars and clubs as well and there is no possibility that you

    wouldn\'t come into contact with the smoke. And what comes to men, I think many smoke only in the clubs to show

    the cool picture of themselfes or something.

    yeah: phinmone - don\'t the let smoke disturb you!

    [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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    Yes

    those that smoke can have luck in bars. But they would have more if they didn\'t since many don\'t care for

    smoky breath and would not go out with a smoker. Contrary to your last post smoking doesn\'t make sopmeone cool.


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    </font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />

    @Elana: You propably go to the bars and clubs as

    well and there is no possibility that you wouldn\'t come into contact with the smoke.

    <hr /></blockquote><font

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    In Miami? You are so wrong about that.

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    </font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
    I think many smoke only in the clubs to show the

    cool picture of themselfes or something.


    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\"> In S. Florida it is NOT

    considered cool. It is considered a nasty habit.

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    </font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
    </font><blockquote><font

    class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
    I think many smoke only in the clubs to show the cool picture of themselfes

    or something.


    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\"> It is considered a nasty habit.

    <hr

    /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    It is a nasty habit

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    Both my girlfriend and I smoke. We have missed numerous opportunities for sexual encounters with other couples

    because of it. I just finally switched to a much milder brand a few weeks ago and hope to kick the habit soon. I

    did quit once and, surprisingly, good smells didn\'t get any better for me but bad smells were amplified

    considerably - I hope to avoid this by a gradual withdrawal versus cold-turkey which is how I did it the first time

    (it was not a pleasant experience but I did do it). I started back up after a really horrible argument I had with

    my then teenage daughter - it was so bad that I wanted to hit her but managed to control myself.... but then I

    couldn\'t calm down at all and had that fateful smoke which did calm me down. I do need to quit and I know my

    life will be much better for it. So, folks, if you do smoke, just smoke and don\'t try to justify it - there\'s

    nothing at all \"cool\" or good about it.

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    I\'ve had great hits while smoking cigars, gross or not, as long as they don\'t expell me from the premises. I

    don\'t give a [censored] if I stink. Of course I now smoke only the finest, Punch Royal Coronation darks, which

    have a lovely boquet (for a cheap cigar, anyway). [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] I bet there are

    those in Miami that enjoy a good Cuban cigar from time to time.

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    </font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
    Both my girlfriend and I smoke. We have missed

    numerous opportunities for sexual encounters with other couples because of it. I just finally switched to a much

    milder brand a few weeks ago and hope to kick the habit soon. I did quit once and, surprisingly, good smells

    didn\'t get any better for me but bad smells were amplified considerably - I hope to avoid this by a gradual

    withdrawal versus cold-turkey which is how I did it the first time (it was not a pleasant experience but I did do

    it). I started back up after a really horrible argument I had with my then teenage daughter - it was so bad that I

    wanted to hit her but managed to control myself.... but then I couldn\'t calm down at all and had that fateful

    smoke which did calm me down. I do need to quit and I know my life will be much better for it. So, folks, if you do

    smoke, just smoke and don\'t try to justify it - there\'s nothing at all \"cool\" or good about it.

    <hr

    /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">Good luck, Kookling [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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    </font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
    I bet there are those in Miami that enjoy a good

    Cuban cigar from time to time.


    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    Then they had better find a

    good cigar club to do it, because they can\'t do it in most bars.

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    </font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
    </font><blockquote><font

    class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
    Both my girlfriend and I smoke. We have missed numerous opportunities for

    sexual encounters with other couples because of it. I just finally switched to a much milder brand a few weeks ago

    and hope to kick the habit soon. I did quit once and, surprisingly, good smells didn\'t get any better for me but

    bad smells were amplified considerably - I hope to avoid this by a gradual withdrawal versus cold-turkey which is

    how I did it the first time (it was not a pleasant experience but I did do it). I started back up after a really

    horrible argument I had with my then teenage daughter - it was so bad that I wanted to hit her but managed to

    control myself.... but then I couldn\'t calm down at all and had that fateful smoke which did calm me down. I

    do need to quit and I know my life will be much better for it. So, folks, if you do smoke, just smoke and don\'t

    try to justify it - there\'s nothing at all \"cool\" or good about it.

    <hr /></blockquote><font

    class=\"post\">Good luck, Kookling [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

    <hr

    /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    Kookling.. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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    phinmone,

    I would probably look a LOT cooler than I do if I were sitting in the Ferrari that I could have

    bought if I had saved all the money that I\'ve wasted on cigarettes over the years.
    For the young people, and

    those who have never tried smoking, DON\'T EVEN TRY IT!! It\'s a seriously addictive habit! I myself speak from

    the experience of 35 years of psychological and financial ENSLAVEMENT, and I can look just as cool, if not COOLER

    when I DON\'T have a cigarette hanging out of my mouth.

    For those adults who DO smoke, TRY to quit, or at

    least cut back on the number or the strength of the cigarettes you smoke. If nothing else, this may help you to

    survive a bit longer to allow you to enjoy more years of smoking pleasure!

    [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

    As noted above, being a smoker WILL automatically disqualify

    you as a potential partner for a great many women who do not smoke and find the habit and its side effects

    abhorrent. But there are also a great many women who DO smoke, as well as a number who WON\'T exclude you from

    consideration as a partner simply because you smoke even though they do not.

    I\'ve used pheromones for several

    years and have been a regular smoker for the entire time. I\'ve never noticed my smoking habit interfering with my

    phero use. Granted, I may need to apply a bit more of a phero dose than does a non-smoker, but I doubt that I need

    to apply MUCH more. The non-smoking phero user who operates in the same venues as I would have to compensate for the

    smoke in the air there nearly as much as I would.

    The scent of tobacco smoke about you becomes part of your

    personal scent signature that you present to the world, whether you (or they) like it or not.
    It should be noted

    that a great number of commercial colognes from many of the \"better\" fragrance houses utilize tobacco notes in

    their scents. Some of the men\'s fragrances that do can be found

    HERE on

    basenotes.net.


    So how bad ARE you screwing up your personal scent by adding a note that even the House of

    Creed includes in their fragrance line? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

    Yes, you DO take

    yourself out of the running for a long-term relationship with a segment of the female population by being a smoker,

    but there are plenty of women to whom this is NOT an issue.

    In a smoky club environment with a carefully

    calculated dose of pheros AND the disinhibitory effects of alcohol working in your favor, your being a smoker is

    less likely to be a detriment in the pursuit of a \"short-term\" relationship than it would be should you be

    seeking a long-term relationship with a female who is a non-smoker. And there\'s few things in life finer than the

    cigarette you enjoy lying in bed after a particularly satisfying one night stand.

    [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

    </font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr

    />
    \"A cigarette is the perfect type of pleasure. It is exquisite, and it leaves one unsatisfied. What more could

    one want?\"
    --Oscar Wilde

    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    I do feel obligated to restate that if

    you are a young person who doesn\'t smoke, smoking will NOT make you look cooler, or older, or smarter. You\'ll

    just look like a stupid young kid who\'s TRYING to look cool.

    Straight from the heart of a stupid old man,



    Oscar [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

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    </font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />


    Kookling..

    [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    I would go back

    and edit it, but it is just too cute. He is now officially Kookling to me.

    [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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    The

    scent of tobacco leafs that are used in perfume are nothing close to the smell of a lit cigarette

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    </font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
    The scent of tobacco leafs that are used in perfume

    are nothing close to the smell of a lit cigarette

    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    its akin to

    saying tea smells of sh!t

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    </font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
    The scent of tobacco leafs that are used in perfume

    are nothing close to the smell of a lit cigarette

    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    Elana,

    I

    couldn\'t agree more. Not even Creed\'s \"Tabarome\" can do for me what a Pall Mall non-filter can, up to and

    including KILLING me!

    Oscar [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]


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    </font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
    </font><blockquote><font

    class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />
    The scent of tobacco leafs that are used in perfume are nothing close to the

    smell of a lit cigarette

    <hr /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    Elana,

    I couldn\'t agree more. Not

    even Creed\'s \"Tabarome\" can do for me what a Pall Mall non-filter can, up to and including KILLING

    me!

    Oscar [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]



    <hr /></blockquote><font

    class=\"post\">

    I am going to set up an appointment for you to meet with Tallmacky. We will get to the bottom

    of this smoking issue you have. My guess it is related to an issue that you are trying to cover up. We will work on

    uncovering that issue.

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    </font><blockquote><font class=\"small\">Quote:</font><hr />

    \".......I was wearing all I had (4 dabs-drops

    NPA/m, 4 big dabs PPA and 1/2 SOE gel packet. I dabbed these on my jacket and the dabs or maybe even drops were

    quite big I think). I did not get any reactions. Really, no bad, no good ones. ......\"

    Phinmone

    <hr

    /></blockquote><font class=\"post\">

    phinmone,

    Leaving the topic of tobacco use aside for the moment, I

    think that you\'re over-doing it with the pheros. Just because you don\'t SEE obvious negative reactions

    doesn\'t mean they aren\'t there.

    You could smell as good as a dewy morning on the banks of the Tigris in a

    patch of wild Jasmine, or as bad as a pile of festering moosesh!t in the mid-day sun, and THAT level of pheromone

    application is likely to make people want to ignore you either way. Where they CAN escape they will do so, and where

    they cannot they will hope that YOU go away, but they\'re quite unlikely to actually exibit signs of their

    distaste. When YOU smell someone with an objectionable scent (excluding friends), do YOU tell them how bad they

    smell?

    That\'s a LOT of stuff!!
    First cut it in half, then try backing it down a notch or two.
    One drop of

    NPA is a full phero dose for me. (YMMV)
    While I\'ll assume that you don\'t ALWAYS apply that heavily,
    that

    application is pretty much off the charts! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]


    Oscar

    [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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    Phinmone, I\'m not going to moralize to you about smoking. For cryin out loud, you are a grown man who can make

    his own choices.However for what its worth, I don\'t smoke rettes. And I have pretty much stopped seeing chicks

    that do. Other than the obvious reasons, the main reason is that to me, their juice doesn\'t taste as good. It

    seems to be off kilter. And I\'m not talking hygiene, either. This is important to me since I eat at the Y rather

    frequently. Jst 2 cents worth.

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