Well, it's been four weeks since I started my test of Chikara, NPA, and AE. I must say, before I get
to the results and analyzation, that I love the smell of Chikara and AE. Chikara has a nice, mature (thank you
Oscar) scent to it, and I find that it puts me in a better mood. I don't feel the same mood-boosters with AE, but I
like the fragrance very much, and would not hesitate to wear it as a standalone product. NPA is a great product,
though better, I think, as an additive rather than as something you apply to the skin. This trial was done over four
weeks total. I wore the product in question 5 or 6 days out of the week, and the other I wore nothing, to observe
any possible build-up and or difference in mood. Now, to the results:
Product:
Chikara
Application:
Minimum: 1/2 a spray, on the neck, none on
chest
Average: 1 1/2 sprays, on the neck. 1/2 spray on chest
Maximum: 2 full sprays, on the neck. 1 spray on
chest
Hits during four week trial: Quite a few (More than fifteen)
Analyzation: Chikara is my current favorite product. The smell by itself is great, but the fact that
it has 7 pheromones makes it all the better. I've worn Chikara in many different environments, and have yet to have
a negative response. I've worn it in nightclubs, bars, work, at a party, and at home. I've felt confident and been
in a good mood every time I wear it, and can smell the fragrance for a good while.
Results: During
the time when I was wearing Chikara, no matter what the dosage, I encountered an increase in friendliness, arm
contact, and chatiness. I was never approached directly by any women, but the ones I approached were willing to
talk, and over time (probably prolongued exposure), opened up and shared some intimate stories that I don't think I
would've heard without 'mones. On the dance floor in a club, I had a women who was clinging to me during a song,
and keeping her head very close to an application spot on my neck. That turned out to be an interesting night...
Overall View of Product: Great! I love the fragrance, and am very much enjoying the increased
attention I am getting! This increased attention could be attributed to the 'mones, or the confidence I feel when
wearing Chikara. I feel it's a bit of both, because I'm not shy, but I'm not James Bond either.
Product: Alter Ego for Men
Application:
Minimum: 1 drop, applied to throat
Average: 2 drops, applied
to both sides of neck and throat
Maximum: 3 drops, applied to aforementioned spots, and bridge of nose
Hits During Four Week Trial: Several (Five to ten)
Analyzation: Alter Ego is a
good product. I like the smell, though it's a bit sweet in my opinion. I do not feel any change in mood while
wearing it, but a friend told me he noticed an increase in confidence while I was wearing the AE (he noticed the
change when I was wearing an average dosage). This product is a good one, however. To begin with, AE contains good
concentrations of all three 'big' pheromones, not just one in particular. Also, the scent doesn't seem to
disappear very quickly, or when you mix it with something else. Lastly, Alter Ego can be used to perfection as a
standalone, or in a mix. Either one works very well.
Results: Alter Ego had a definite positive
effect on those around me. Besides female reactions, I noticed an increase in friendliness among some guys I was
with. I played poker one Saturday when I was wearing an average dosage of AE, and the guys I was playing with were
less confrontational than usual. (When I say 'less than usual', you have to realize that there are no good friends
at a poker table; it's money.) One of them even stayed after the game was over to help me clean up, which usually
never happens. On the female side, I was impressed with what AE did to some women. For example, I started a
conversation with a bartender at a bar I frequent. She must have been new, as I hadn't seen her there before. At
first, she treated me like another drunk with a lame pickup line (which I was not). However, after a few one
lined answers, she started elaborating more and more, keeping eye contact with me for minutes at a time. I didn't
notice any type of DIHL, but after a blatantly obvious glance at her chest, I got no aggressiveness, only a sexy
smile. At work, my boss, who's a female, was overly accomadating when I came to her about a problem with my
computer, whereas she's usually a mean, inconsiderate bitch. Alter Ego didn't get me any direct sexual hits, but
it opened women up and allowed me to try a few things that I wouldn't normally try with a reserved individual.
Overall View of Product: AE has a nice fragrance, and is good for getting women to open up and talk,
which can leave them open to sexual advances, which can lead to...![]()
Product:
New Pheromone Additive
Application:
Minimum: 1
drop on throat or face; 6:1 mix, cologne to NPA
Average: 2 drops (1 on throat, 1 on face) 5:1, cologne to
NPA
Maximum: 3 drops (2 on throat and one on face, or 2 on face and one on throat) 4:1, cologne to
NPA
When I say drops, I mean out of a glass dropper. I found that I didn't like the plastic dropper
that was on the top of the bottle to start with, so I removed it and used a glass dropper I purchased at Walgreens.
Mixes were done in an atomizer that used to be a cologne sampler containing Acqua di Gio.
Hits During 4 Week Trial: Numerous (More than twenty)
Analyzation: WOW! That's
all I can say about this powerhouse product, is wow. NPA is just great, as an additive or as a product to put on
under your cologne/aftershave. I wore NPA on my skin, got results; I wore NPA after mixing it with a cologne in an
atomizer, and got results. This product is one of, if not the best product out there. It's a great value as well,
and I'm definitely going to have to get the 10ml bottle very soon. I love NPA in both instances, and it's gotten
me results no matter how I wear it.
Results: I found that when I wore NPA as a mix, meaning added
to a cologne in an atomizer, I got better results. The dosage that got me the most results was 5:1. I was a bit
scared, originally, to use this mix, because in a 4:1, I could smell the NPA in the atomizer. However, when I
applied the mix, the Chikara that I had used was the prevalent smell, and my worry disappeared. The most blatant and
overtly sexual hit that I got was at a bar on a Friday night. The bar was packed, and hot women were all over the
place. I walked around for about ten minutes, to scope out the action, and to figure out who I wanted to try my mix
on. I noticed a very attractive (9.5) female sitting in the corner, and I approached her and started a conversation.
Note to any newbie: Pheromones aren't going to get the women to approach you, though that happens very rarely. You
need to combine 'mones with approachability, or your not going to get anywhere. Phan used a great analogy to
explain this: You're going to get beat by a good runner with no shoes if you have good shoes and can't run.
Anyway, I approached the girl, started a conversation, and she seemed genually interested in what I had to say.
After a few minutes, she went very in depth when I asked her about a necklace she was wearing, and started touching
my arm to demonstrate how much she loved the island in Hawaii where she bought it (or something like that, I dont
really remember). This arm touching continued, until she asked me, yes, SHE asked ME to dance to this song playing
on a jukebox. During the 'dance', she was boobing me, grinding, and a lot more. The night was fun, to say the
least. Later that night, she ended up licking my neck in the exact place where I had applied part of the mix.
Another girl in the bar also said, "You smell good," when I passed by her for a brief second. NPA is very good, and
is a great product to use.
Overall View of Product: Two thumbs WAY UP! NPA is an excellent
additive product, and I know for sure that I'm buying more of this as soon as my bottle runs out. I'm one of the
people who can't smell the strong 'mone smell in NPA, and all it smells like to me is alcohol. However, I put a
few drops on without a cover, and could smell the NPA very easily. Great product though, no question! Note to
newbies: (again) Make sure you have a proper cover scent when you use this product. No one wants to be around
someone who smells like absolute crap!
For my next four week trial, I'm going to experiment with the aA314
product that I ordered, along with WAGG, and a sampler I got from a department store. The sampler's called Spark.
Thanks for reading, and commentary, reccomendations, or advice is greatly appreciated!
-Bigman
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Outstanding job, Bigum!![]()
Your NPA mix ... tis the only one that confused this old man ... you used drops or sprays? If it wasn't a typo,
how do you use drops (special container)? Which is best, the drops or sprays?
Would you edit that
section if it was a typo, and even though I suck at math ... 3 drops does not equal to 2 drops on the face and 2
drops on the throat. You trying to trick me, Big Fella!!!?I know that equals to 4!
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Never argue with ignorant people! They pull you down to THEIR level, and then they BEAT YOU with experience. Who said that!? I don't know, but tis gold I tell'ya!!










Good analysis and set of
observations Bigman808. Was that 4 weeks per product, or 4 weeks split between them?
I like the mention of
minimum, average, and maximum of dosages used. One thing I forgot to mention in my results thread is that I
couldn't easily tell the difference in reactions between different dosages used. Would you say the same, or did it
seem as if there was an optimal dosage for each of the 3 products?
Mobley - Thanks for the
compliments! I changed the section in question, and I'll do my best to clarify it in this post as well. When I say
drops, I mean out of a glass dropper purchased at Walgreens. I found this product extremely helpful in mixing and
taking exact drops. For my cologne/NPA mixes, I mixed the two in a spare atomizer that used to contain a sample of
Acqua di Gio.
What I meant in that instance, with the 2 and 2 drops under maximum dosage, was that I used either
two drops on my face and one on my throat, or two drops on my throat and one on my face. I was hesitant to use more,
as NPA has a very strong scent to me, even if it only smells like alcohol. After the two products were mixed in the
atomizer, I sprayed it on myself. In the other trials, I applied the drops directly from the glass dropper onto
whatever area of my skin. Does this clear it up for you? If not, I'll be happy to clarify anything in question!
Phan - Thanks for the compliments as well! When I was testing Alter Ego, I noticed an increase in attentiveness
and chatiness when I used my maximum dosage. In the case of Chikara, there was no extreme varying in the type of hit
I recieved, no matter the dosage. With my NPA mix, I noticed a more sexual edge to the hits when I used a 5:1 rather
than a 4:1. Also, I found that the mixes worked better rather than any direct application to my skin. This makes
sense though, since it is an additive product. 4:1 got me one aggressive reaction, but there was nothing of the kind
with the other two ratios I tried. The hits were more numerous, however, with 5:1 as compared to the other two
mixes. Also, the four products were tried for a bit more than a four week span. However, I continued an NPA/Chikara
mix for about three days after the four week period was up, just to make sure what I saw would happen again. It did
indeed, so I have no doubt that the two are a killer mix!
Thanks again for the kind words!
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NPA:COLOGNE - Using 2 drops of
the 5:1, and 3 drops of the 4:1 ... The 4:1 got you the most hits, but 5:1 still got you hits, yes?![]()
If
this is fer true, could be the reason why JB1 is not too consistent, and gets only aggressive hits at 7:3 APC:NPA.
Your recent post mentioned Chikara and NPA ... did you mix those two at 5:1, as well, or did you do the dab
NPA:spray Chikara thing?
Think I've asked time and time again, but once more, please ... how old are ya?
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Thanks, BigMon!![]()
Never argue with ignorant people! They pull you down to THEIR level, and then they BEAT YOU with experience. Who said that!? I don't know, but tis gold I tell'ya!!
4:1 got me an aggressive
reaction, definitely not a hit. I've read a good amount about JB#1, and don't like the concept of it. 7:3 seems
much more applicable for a mix, rather than what is suggested.
When I mixed Chikara and NPA, I used both
methods. I found that, however, mixing the two in a 5:1 ratio got me more hits than direct application. Granted,
the latter did get me good reactions, but a mix in an atomizer wiped the floor with direct applciation, IMHO.
Don't think you asked earlier about my age, but I'm happy to answer that question. I'm 25, almost 26 years
old.










So the 5:1 at two drops would be your recommendation? Did youOriginally Posted by Bigman808
ever try 3 drops with that?![]()
Still, you usedOriginally Posted by Bigman808
to atomizer to mix in, and used drops from it, or sprayed? And the dropper you purchased at WG is larger than the AE
dropper, yes?![]()
I have no more questions ... you may step down.
Thanks!![]()
Never argue with ignorant people! They pull you down to THEIR level, and then they BEAT YOU with experience. Who said that!? I don't know, but tis gold I tell'ya!!
Alas, you've confused me as well. When I said 5:1 and 2 drops, I meant those were my twoOriginally Posted by MOBLEYC57
alternate's for my average application. 5:1 is my favorite mix of the three I tried, because it smells great, and
it got me a boatload of hits.
When I mixed products in an atomizer, I sprayed the mix on myself as well as using
direct application of drops from a dropper. (Once again, two alternate methods of application)
I'm sorry if I
confused you, so let me rephrase my application methods of NPA: I either mixed and sprayed, or mixed and applied
drops using a dropper. I also dabbed NPA and sprayed/applied my cologne over it. I did this method once, and
recieved a very small amount of hits from it.
Also, the dropper that I bought from Walgreens is bigger than the
one in AE. I'm not sure whether there is a difference in drop size, so I'll go and figure that out real quick.
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Alrighty then! Back up there, Buster!Originally Posted by Bigman808
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How many sprays do you normally use?![]()
So,
probably, about 2 AE droppers would be close to your larger dropper.![]()
Now you may step down, and leave
this court.![]()
Never argue with ignorant people! They pull you down to THEIR level, and then they BEAT YOU with experience. Who said that!? I don't know, but tis gold I tell'ya!!
I was gettin comfortable off
the witness chair, but I'll tromp back up there. (is tromp even a word? lol) Sprays with an atomizer? 1 to 1/2. The
sprayer that was on this thing would SHOOT OUT liquid like a water bottle, so I had to be careful. What is it with
these samplers, they are always so violent! I had one, a while back, that was a sample of some Polo cologne. I
sprayed it aimed at my chest, ended up getting nailed in the eye, and went out that night looking like I'd just
done laps in a chlorine-filled pool with my eyes open!
I'm now leaving...the town! lol![]()
Now this is the kind of "meat and
potatoes" detailed reports I personally like to see.
Unfortunately NPA has not done well for me, yet. But I too
am in early stages of experimentation, and I'm only running 2 week tests. So far of SOE, Chikara (C7), Perception,
and AE (all with and without NPA except AE), AE is ranking #1 even after only a 1 week test (and I haven't added
NPA yet), Chikara is #2, SOE #3 (ranking based on more "sexual" hits over just "social" effects), and Perception
ranks a big 0 (no reactions at all straight. Usual bad reactions when add usual 1 dab NPA).
Note that for me in
a way SOE is serving as a comparison to the more "sexual" hit formulas of AE, C7, and Perception. "Control group"
formulas are straight cologne (no 'mone products) and days when I skip wearing any product ('mone. cologne, etc).
Speaking of which, have you tried any observations while NOT wearing 'mone products (do you have a "control group"
reference as a baseline)?.
Sorry my reports aren't as detailed as yours Bigman. I tain't *that* organized...
should be, but...
Last edited by Rbt; 04-25-2005 at 02:50 PM. Reason: Damn typos, again!
Thanks for the kind words,
Rbt.
It took me a while to get used to NPA. When I got my package of Chikara/NPA, I read the instructions to a T
and researched the forum for a good week just to prevent od'ing. I must have missed the all-important message:
'The only way to find out if something works is to experiment.' I originally started out with less than a drop,
and after getting nada, I decided to break out, just a bit, from my strict following of forum advice. I then tried a
drop, and kept going until I met what I thought was my NPA masterpiece dosage, which was 2 drops. About a week
later, I discovered mixing, and decided to give it a try. Thank God for that! As stated in my analyzation, a 5:1 mix
seems to be kicking ass and taking names on a regular basis. I wish you all the luck in finding your 'bliss' mix,
and using it to perfection (and sexual satisfaction).
As to your question, yes, I did use a control
group. My control, or dependent variable, was no cologne, no mones, nothing. This meant using my charm (which I used
even with pheromones), and nothing else. Before I began testing the three products, I went out for a week and a half
and tried my luck. I didn't get any noticeable hits, though I did take a nice, cute blonde home twice. My brief
analyzation of this control group was that without any additions to me ('mones), I didn't get anywhere near the
amount of action that I did when I was wearing pheromones. This was my basis for comparison with all my other
findings. Also, during my weeks of testing, I made sure I went out at least once a week with nothing on, just to
observe any signs of build-up or anything else out of the ordinary.










And a biscuitOriginally Posted by Rbt
... as soon as he
comes back that last bit of info!![]()
Originally Posted by Bigman808
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Never argue with ignorant people! They pull you down to THEIR level, and then they BEAT YOU with experience. Who said that!? I don't know, but tis gold I tell'ya!!
Ah, thank you for the
reminder, Mobley! I did get that information, just forgot to post it!![]()
After dropping water about
four or five times with each dropper, I have found that the glass dropper from Walgreens has just under 2x bigger
drops than the dropper that comes with the AE bottle.
Mobley, thanks again for the reminder!![]()










Alrighty then!!Originally Posted by Bigman808
And a biscuit!
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I have found that the glass
dropper from Walgreens has just under 2x bigger drops than the dropper that comes with the AE
bottle.
That translates to 2 AE dropper drops = 1 Walgreen dropper drop, yes?
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Never argue with ignorant people! They pull you down to THEIR level, and then they BEAT YOU with experience. Who said that!? I don't know, but tis gold I tell'ya!!
That's just about right. The
drops from the Walgreens dropper aren't quite 2x as big, but they're pretty damn close to it. So, for the sake of
.01 drop unit measurement, I'll say it's 2x as big!![]()
Big man, you felt pretty good about
the fact that the piss smell of npa did not come through at 4 : 1 or 5:1?
"An investment in knowledge always pays the best interest."
--Benjamin Franklin
I could smell the alcohol
(I'm afraid I don't have the 'piss' sensor) in my 4:1 mix, but in 5:1, there was virtually no trace of it. 5:1
has become my favorite mix and has gotten me numerous hits. 4:1 got me an aggressive reaction from a man at a bar
and a few decent hits, but 5:1 cleans up the competition.










Annnnnd, whichOriginally Posted by bjf
Chikara do you have ... the newest (dull cap), or the oldest version (shinny chrome cap)?![]()
Never argue with ignorant people! They pull you down to THEIR level, and then they BEAT YOU with experience. Who said that!? I don't know, but tis gold I tell'ya!!
uhh, I thought the new version
was the one with the chrome cap...well, in any case, my Chikara has a very shiny chrome cap, with a powerful
sprayer. You?
I think Bruce recently "upgraded" the Chikara sprayer with a new chrome outer capOriginally Posted by Bigman808
and an inner chrome cap as well.
See:
http://love-scent.com/forum/showthread.ph
p?t=13483&highlight=chrome
Originally Posted by Bruce
Yeah, that's what I was
referring to. I have the newer model then, as mine is a chrome model and sprays a lot stronger than I was
expecting. Plus, I told Bruce in that thread about my Chikara bottle, and he confirmed that it was the new bottle.
Works very well, and I'm very happy with the new model.
Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach him how to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.






You
may have od'd on the none by sunday. I find if I wear npa or similar for more then 2 days (no matter how much) no
one will come near me.
As you're a bit like me and can seem like the scary dude in the corner at times , try
WAGG. It worked wonders for me and gave me a lot of confidence to open up more when I first used it. Like you I
often go out by myself , I work irregular hours/days so sometimes finding someone to go out with on a monday night
can be difficult!
edit:
oops, for some reason the last page of this thread just appeared after
posting. But I stand by my Wagg suggestion. (glad to hear NPA's working for you though!)
early 40's white maleor
or










chikara seems to be on its own or
with SOE or attraction a good one for crowd control, social boosting general feelgood but with a different type of
vibe to SOE and Attraction.
Hey Bigman808, any new
reports you care to post with your pheros, specially with NPA? Would love to hear more of your experiences...and
reps to you for great post![]()
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