know it is usually not done here that people post their 'hits' without mones, but I have several reasons for doing
First: I have never used pheromones in my life. I have my APC/NPA combo on the way and while I do not doubt
from reading on this forum that mones are effective, I am curious as to how much of that effect is due to the
Second: In order to step up my game, since I am sure that there will be a noticible effect that
will at least slightly alter the way people perceive me, I told myself I was wearing pheromones yesterday in an
effort to a) simulate the placebo effects of wearing the mones so once I start wearing them, I can have a better
idea of what hits are due to the mones and what hits are due to the way I'm acting because I believe I am a newly
awakened sex god with -none; and b) help my image in transitioning from what it was before to what it will be once I
start wearing -none. I am worried people who know me will notice an abrupt change in the way they perceive me once I
start wearing the -none and I do not want this to happen, so I decided to try acting the part prematurely in an
effort to have my friends see me in a kind of new light so it is not as sudden when they all start finding
themselves attracted to me.
I know that was a little bit complicated so thanks for bearing with me.
I am a 5'8" 20-year old male of Jewish descent (ancestors coming within the last 6 generations from Russian and
Romania, but its anybody's guess where they came from before that). I've always felt that I was lacking something
intangible in the way of game, because women often don't react to me, or act like I'm not there or they don't
want to acknowledge me. I don't exactly dress uber-nicely, usually just the ol' jeans and tshirt deal. I think I
used to be above average looking, but a combination of factors has probably led to that being not so true any more
(receding hairline, the beginning of man-tits, nose getting bumpier, and body hair all over - all within the last
few years). Maybe I'm still above average. I have a serious baby-face that women tend to react to kindly when they
see it, but not when you're hitting on them, which is why I think my hotornot pictures got an 8 and a 7.7 (that and
hotornot is somewhat random or based on things besides looks anyway [these pictures of me are a little over a year
old anyway]) I believe my signature is very high in oxytocone, below average in -nol, and almost devoid of -nones
and -rones. I will be getting to a lot more of this in another thread as well.
So last night a friend of mine
was having a party at her house, and so I had requested to have the night off at work in advance. I worked from 4 PM
to 8 PM, and instead of taking a shower when I got off like I normally might, I kept the undershirt I had from work
on, took a 2-hour nap, then put on a Simpsons shirt over it, threw on some pants, and went out. I biked there, since
I don't have a car now, and I'm sure the excercise got my body pumping out some more of my signature 'mones than
it normally does.
I was disappointed when I got to the party to find only 6 girls there (I'll call them by
their first initials: A, C, L, N, S, and Z) all of whom I already know. L and N are the only two who don't have SOs
and I'm not at all interested in them (as anything more than friends). A and I(me) have had what I've considered
to be sparks in the past (physical only, I wouldn't date her), but she is bisexual and in a relationship right now
with S, a lesbian friend of mine who is leaving town tomorrow to go back home (she was visiting for a few days, but
they of course are going to maintain their relationship long-distance until S gets back when school starts up
again). I think S is a pretty cool girl and was happy to see her visiting. Also, I would never want to hurt her by
making a move on her girlfriend, which I know would otherwise be favorable for me (if they weren't dating
definitely). I had met Z on New Years '05/'06 at my friend N's and picked up that she was attracted to me when
she was describing how she had recently taken a blowjob workshop at a local liberal arts college. I haven't talked
to her since, though, because she went to school in New Orleans last semester, where she has a bf now (from NO), who
was here with her at the party last night.
What I was surprised by was the way she (Z) was acting towards me
(despite her bf being right there). I have been paying more attention to body language since starting to read the
posts here and I was picking up some minor body language from her for a while since my entrance (although I never
even greeted her bc I was a little out of breath from the bike ride). At one point I struck up a conversation with
her boyfriend, who seemed like a pretty cool guy, and probably more attractive then me, but also shorter. Anyway, a
little bit later, I was talking with my (guy) friend Ma, and was telling him about how I was working at a movie
theater now for $5.15 an hour. He is a manager at a restaurant and was telling me he could get me a job there after
the summer for $5.25 + tips. After he finished telling me about that, I leaned over to read his shirt, and he told
me it said Las Vegas, that his parents had got the shirt for him. Now keep in mind that throughout this whole
conversation Z was standing nearby, talking (I think) to her boyfriend. When we got on the topic of Las Vegas I was
telling him about how I had wanted to visit LV for a long time, but it was probably one of those places I would
never actually get around to visiting, "because really the only things to do there are gamble and buy hookers." He
said something about prostitution being illegal and we got on the topic of the legality of it (my sentiments --
"it's just another way for the govt. to infringe upon our individual rights"). So then I blurted out, "I wish
prostitution were legal because then I for damn sure would be making more than $5.15 an hour." At this point, Z
breaks off whatever conversation she may have been having, turns to me seeming very friendly, and says "How much are
you charging?" I actually ignored her question bc her bf was right there and he was not seeming very happy, and I
would never want to be responsible for messing up another couple's relationship. Had she been single, I would have
been like "for you, a discount: $50" Of course I would have done her for free, but it's good to be cocky. Anyways -
Later in the night, S, who is a musician was playing some of her songs on her guitar. A (her
girlfriend) was holding a microphone for her while she was singing, but she was looking at me almost the whole time
and there was a lot of eye contact between us (I mentioned I have felt for a while that there was physical chemistry
between us, so this was not really unusual). C (who is incredibly hot) was pretty much unfriendly to me the whole
time -- like she usually is more or less (she has a bf). Other than that, everyone was pretty friendly to me, but
nothing too unusual.
Had I been wearing mones though (besides my own), I'm pretty sure I would have attributed
a few of those things to the mones (especially Z's comment, which really was pretty inappropriate and unexpected
considering her bf was RIGHT NEXT TO HER).
Now I'm wondering how I'm going to determine what effects (if any)
the APC/NPA combo I'm going to be wearing is having on the people around me, and what effects are just placebo, or
due to my own behavior change because I think I'm wearing mones. Again, I pretty much 'believed' I was already
wearing 'mones while I was at the party last night, and looked at everything with that mindset. How do you tell
which behaviors in other people are due to 'mones and which ones are just natural reactions to the way YOU are
that's some post!!!
You'll do well here.
There is a cure for electile dysfuntion!!!!
Now that's a super idea, typing down all of your observations before you use mones to get a baseline
comparison. Since you are going to test out NPA, perhaps you should also test any cologne that you might be
planning on mixing with NPA, before you add NPA.
It Don't Mean a Thing if it ain't got that swing. . . . -Duke Ellington
Hey, thanks for the
welcome, and for reading my long-ass post which I realized just now from rereading was also incredibly confusing
because of the first initials. Next time I'll just make up names.
I know testing the cover scent ahead of time
would be helpful for gauging the difference in reactions, but I'm not going to do this for a few reasons:
scent I'm going to be using is patchouli, which I've liked for a long time, and which I also think will help me
draw attention from the 'type' of girls I'm interested in. Being a very strong scent, I'm sure it will be great
for covering the NPA, and as its a pretty common fragrance in some circles, I think I have a pretty good idea of how
people will react to the patchouli.
-Since I ordered the patchouli and the mones on the same day I'm expecting
them to arrive around the same time, and I will already be impatient to try the mones. Time is possibly very limited
for me right now (will post more on this in another thread) and once I get the mones I'm going to want all the
benefits I can get from them as quickly as possible. I am looking just for sexual hits right now, and as many of
them as possible. I will of course be responsible and use condoms (oh, and no I don't have an std if you're
wondering if that's why the 'time is possibly limited').
-I am worried that a remarkable difference in the way
people react to me might get some of my friends and coworkers wondering (most of my coworkers are black girls, who
are reportedly extra-sensitive to -none, and most of my friends are very intelligent scientist/philosopher types
with extensive background in drugs, the effects of drugs, and the state of their body and how they are being
effected by the drugs they do.). If I wear the patchouli with the -none and people I know start thinking 'Man, this
kid is hot' when they didn't before, they're more likely to attribute it to the patchouli. Hence I want to
premier both at the same time. I'm also going to be undergoing a slight modification in my appearance as well, to
even further make it seem natural that people should start thinking of me in a different light (starting to wear a
hemp necklace, which will complement the patchouli very well and also help draw attention from the 'types' of
girls I'm interested in).
And Swinger and Koolking, thanks again for the response and the welcome. Both of you
are among the regular posters here that I've come to respect from reading your insightful posts. So if you're
wondering how I seem so informed for a n00b, it's from reading the words wisdom you guys have been so generous to
Also, I have great respect for the swinger lifestyle (which I know koolking is into and I believe swinger
as well, given the name, although I can't remember reading anything by him specifically about it). I am a propenent
of polyamory and have somewhat unique beliefs about how relationships are currently set up and the problems with
them (not that I would refuse to be exclusive with a girl if that's what she wanted, and I liked her a lot). My
ideal relationship would be with a openminded girl or group of people (which could include guys -- I love all human
beings to some degree, and some men I have deep love for even though I'm not gay)
"Swinger" part of my name refers to my love of Swing dance (Lindy hop, Balboa, Collegiate Shag, Charleston). I'm
actually more of a "one woman" type of guy. Although I do find myself dating multiple people at once from time to
time . . . .
As to the other part of my name . . . nope I'm not a doctor, but I do portray one on the forum
. I actually work in a research lab at the local university (moving on to a clinical lab soon) around grad students
and docs of the Ph.D persuation. In fact I've been mistaken for a doc several times when testing A314. The last
part of my handle here is sort of a state of "being" rather than a profession.
It Don't Mean a Thing if it ain't got that swing. . . . -Duke Ellington
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