neon, are you still around?
I thought that my first post in the forum would be a testimonial about the effectiveness of the
pheromones I bought, but this seems to be a more pressing issue for me.
I've fallen into spiritual stagnation.
I've been meditating for nine months now, following the meditative practice outlined by Wayne Dyer in "Manifesting
Your Destiny" and, while I have seen results, I'm not getting what I want from meditating, which is to be able to
connect to a higher force consistently.
I've experienced such a connection once, and it was wonderful, but I
haven't been able to repeat it.
Basically I want to be able to leave this world and enter a new and different
realm of consciousness and awareness.
I've tried the Silva UltraMind technique, guided meditation (too
distracting), trance CD's (ineffective) and I looked into Transcendental Meditation but decided against it due to
the huge fee.
Can anyone suggest some good resources to help me? With so much crap and so many false gurus, I
don't know where to turn.
I'm reading The Relaxation Response and The Meditative Mind. Maybe I should finish
them first. I'm thinking about buying some books by Carl Jung. I don't know...
neon, are you still around?
I haven't logged in for
some time, but if I receive a notice that someone has sent me a message, I'll come on and check it out.
you've fallen into spiritual stagnation? if you started thinking about stagnation already, is because you're
having a desire to keep going. I know that what I'll say next it's depends of ours own individual life
experience.. But what work for me is try to find some intelligent answers to problems and questions that I face
every single day. If the problem have a solution, why worry? If the problem haven't got a solution, why you worry
too ? that is "relaxation response" for me.
About Spiritual.. I was struggled in it for ages.. maybe
because our natural fear of 'the Unknown'. Fanatics religious are very easy manipulate by fake gurus because of
that fear...(I have one friend doing a very good studie on it)
I believe in God, not in religions. And I do
believe that we're already connect to this superior force, and it's not dependes if you have conscious or not
may a good start
Take care yourself.
PS-> when I have a hard stuff to do, and
I have no clue about it, I start thinking about something funny and stupid thing such
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I have lately felt like I have
been at a spiritual low. I had stopped meditating and become a critical, negative person with huge doubts about
everything. It sounds very different than what you're talking about, since it sounds like you seem to be wanting
to continue your growth and are having issues with moving forward. Lately I have been returning to meditating
myself and have been using some of the techniques from the very same Wayne Dyer CD. I like Wayne Dyer a lot, though
I sometimes find it hard to get past certain statements he makes. I am working hard on not letting my judgments and
doubts to get in my way spiritually. Still, I find that he sometimes makes well-intentioned but naive statements.
I don't want to get into what I'm talking about because I am getting something out of the meditation and don't
want to shut it down because of getting consumed by doubts.
I have also started to get back into Qigong. I think
between the two and some promises to myself, I am headed in a good direction.
I know what you mean about a lot of
crap out there and false gurus. Honestly I think most "gurus" are false gurus, and I don't buy into much of what
is considered New Age. I think that there is a lot of good stuff in the movement, but you really need to have your
crap detector on. And, that's where the difficulty is for me. How do I stay open-minded when I have my
crap-detector on? For me, it has been about being able to make a decision to listen and be open even in the face of
some crap. In other words, take what works. Sometimes this is difficult, but it seems the only way to live in a
world filled with imperfection. Of course, I could be wrong. So far, this has been helping me to recapture my
spirituality without going off the deep end. I see so many who buy into a guru or movement completely, only to be
let down and end up worse off. Wouldn't it be better to say "Okay, this guy is not my guru, and I don't buy
everything he says. Hmm, he does have some interesting ideas on meditation. He might have some distorted ideas on
sex but I can still learn from him," than to totally write him off? In some cases, these so-called gurus are
terrible, manipulative people who will bring you down. In most cases, though, you can find something worth
taking......that's my approach for now anyway.
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